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民调:美民众认为特朗普比希拉里更擅解决经济问题

 据俄罗斯“卫星”新闻网9月27日消息,美国盖洛普公司发布一份调查报告显示,美国民众认为,美共和党候选人特朗普比民主党候选人希拉里•克林顿更擅长解决经济问题。

根据这份民意调查结果,美国民众认为,特朗普更擅长解决失业问题、预算赤字问题和制定税收政策。

而至于其它重要问题,特朗普的支持率明显低于希拉里。绝大多数受访者认为,希拉里更擅长解决保障少数族裔权益、气候变迁、卫生、移民、教育、外交政策、同性婚姻和堕胎等问题。

毕竟,不论从哪个角度来看,今年的美国总统大选都太富戏剧性了。

相信大家一定不想错过这场年度大戏,但是二人语速极快,气氛激烈,难免大家会漏掉一些重点。现在小编就给大家总结一下。

主持人莱斯特·霍尔特(Lester Holt)开玩笑说,我紧张得腿都软了(my knees buckling)。

辣么,受到这么多人关注,这场世纪大战到底有多重要呢?用美国人的话说,它就是“政治界的超级碗”(Super Bowl of politics)——用中国人的话说,就是“美国政界的春晚”(spring festival gala of politics)。

许多美国公众认为,电视辩论对于总统候选人来说,要么是turning point(转折点),要么是tipping point(<量变引起质变的>临界点)。

川普连锁旗下酒吧为今晚定制了“The Debate”的专属菜单,时刻都不忘了抓住商机...

还发生了一件很尴尬的事情,在官方的辩论会门票上,希拉里(Hillary)的名字被打成了Hilary,主办方也是心大...

前戏

主持人介绍规则,家属入场

在开始前家属进入了辩论大厅,梅莉妮雅和克林顿的握手的瞬间仿佛看到了噼里啪啦的眼神交战...

当两人握手的时候,youtube上的直播弹幕速度已到达了一个高潮。

辩论前先(眼和心不和的)握个手:

接下来各自站定,辩论正式开始了。

第一轮辩论

第一轮辩论的主题是:achieving prosperity(实现繁荣)。

主要围绕着就业和增加美国人收入(put more money into the pockets of American workers)等方面展开。

希拉里上来先主打温情牌:

Today is my granddaughter's second birthday so I think about this a lot. 

今天是我小孙女的两岁生日,所以在这个方面我想了很多。(这个引入,生硬的不是一点点啊……)

之后,不急不慢地道出了观点。

First, we have to build an economy that works for everyone, not just those at the top.

首先,我们得建设一种全民受益的经济,不能只是为了那些富人。

That means we need new jobs, good jobs with rising incomes. 

就是说,我们需要新工作,好工作,还要涨工资。

燃鹅,无论希拉里怎么说,川普都摆出一副“宝宝不听不听就不听”的表情。

在希拉里bla bla bla地说了2分多钟以后(希拉里一直因为发言太拖沓太冗长而遭到年轻人的嫌弃),终于轮到川普说话了!(宝宝真是憋坏了)

川普上来就表示,希拉里净说点没用的,墨西哥在和我们抢工作啊!

Our jobs are fleeing the country. They are going to Mexico, they are going to many other countries. 

没看到我们的工作机会都溜走了吗?这些机会都去墨西哥了,还有其他国家。

双方你来我往,扯着扯着就说到投资清洁能源上了。这时候希拉里就抓住川普以前的言论刁难他。

Donald thinks that climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese.

川普觉得气候变化是中国搞得一个骗局。

川普当场就不乐意了。

I did not. I do not say that.

没有啊,我没有说过啊。

可是,“热心的”网友马上就找出证据,结果是川普确实说过。(迷之尴尬啊,pia pia打脸啊)

“全球变暖的概念是中国人创造出来的,就是为了搞得美国制造业失去竞争力。”(川普2012年11月6号的推特)

请叫我匹诺曹川普

不过,川普确实不按套路出牌啊,你和我谈就业,我和你谈别的国家;你和我谈别的国家,我和你谈你以前的问题。

And all you have to do is look at Michigan and look at Ohio and look at all of these places where so many of their jobs and their companies are just leaving. They are gone.

你看看密歇根,你看看俄亥俄,你看看这些地方,工作机会正在溜走,公司也都要搬走了。他们,都走了,走了,了。

And Hillary, I'd just ask you this. You've been doing this for 30 years. Why are you just thinking about these solutions right now?

希拉里,我就想问问你,你都在这方面工作30年了。为毛线现在才开始想解决方法?

希拉里表示,你忘了我老公以前是干什么的了么?(微笑脸)

And I have -- well, not quite that long. I think my husband did a pretty good job in the 1990s. I think a lot about what worked and how we can make it work again.

这个,我没工作那么长时间。不过,我丈夫在上世纪90年代在这方面可是做得不错呢。我思考了很多,也想能再振雄风,再创辉煌。

在纳税的问题上,战况也是十分的激烈。

希拉里揪着川普纳税问题不放,指责川普没交过税,不敢公开纳税申报单(tax return)。

Clinton:He's paid nothing in federal taxes.

希拉里:他都没交过税。

Trump:That makes me smart.

川普:这显得我聪明啊。

不得不说,纳税问题的回答绝对是川普的致命伤啊!

吃瓜群众笑的最high的一个片段是,希拉里被川普各种攻击以后说:

Clinton: “I have a feeling by the end of this thing I’m going to be blamed for everything.”

希拉里:我有种预感,这场辩论结束以后所有事情都该怪我咯。

Trump: “Why not?”

特朗普:不怪你怪谁?

第二轮辩论

第二轮辩论,主持人开宗明义: let's talk about race. (让我们谈谈种族问题。)

这个议题的背景是近期两起警察枪杀黑人民众的事件。

希拉里在这一段里提到警察问题和控枪问题。控枪和禁枪一直是奥巴马政府想推进的政策,而同时也正好是川普所代表的共和党所反对的。

川普则强调现在的情况很糟糕,要恢复Law and Order才能控制局面。川普提到了芝加哥的糟糕情况,在今年已经发生了1000起各种枪击事件,并指出自从奥巴马执政以来,美国大城市的安全情况就不断恶化。

川普提到的芝加哥犯罪问题的确所言不虚。

2016年是芝加哥最为“血腥”的一年,在新年伊始的10天之内就有超过100人被杀,在3月末的时候,芝加哥的犯罪率与2015年同时间相比上升了72%。截止今年5月,芝加哥共发生枪击案件1500次,7月初,芝加哥枪击受害人数逾2000人,到9月,芝加哥共有500人被谋杀,3000人枪击身亡。这些数据都远远超过过去的2015年。

川普指出犯罪者里有很多是非法移民,而希拉里侧重拉非裔选票。

川普提出要恢复已经在纽约废除了的Stop-and-Frisk(叫停并拍搜),主持人Lester Holt纠正川普Stop-and-Frisk已经被判违宪了,川普说:NO, you are wrong。

Stop-and-Frisk意指警察可以随时叫停一位行人并且开始搜身

虽然当前美国社会安全问题的确比较严重,枪击案的发生频繁也让民众叫苦不迭,但如果真的把Stop-and-Frisk政策执行开来,对于民众的隐私又是一种侵犯,真是让人心凉的两难。

来看看双方观点:

希拉里提出进行刑事司法改革(criminal justice reform):

1. Everyone should be respected by the law and everyone should respect the law. Right now, that's not the case in a lot of our neighborhoods.

每个人都应当被法律尊重,每个人也都应当尊重法律。但目前,我们很多社区并不是这样。

2. So I have, ever since the first day of my campaign, called for criminal justice reform. 

我从参加竞选的第一天开始,就呼吁进行刑事司法改革。

3. The gun epidemic is the leading cause of death of young African-American men. 

枪支泛滥是年轻美国黑人死亡的最主要原因。

4. So we have to do two things. We have to restore trust, we have to work with the police, we have to make sure they respect the communities and the communities respect them and we have to tackle the plague of gun violence, which is a big contributor to a lot of the problems that we're seeing today.

所以我们要做两件事:我们要重建信任,和警察共同努力,确保他们尊重人民,人民也尊重他们。其次,我们要处理枪支暴力的痼疾,因为这是我们今天所目睹的众多问题的一大根源。

川普的观点是……

希拉里不配谈“law and order”(法律和秩序)。

First of all, secretary Clinton doesn't want to use a couple of words. And that's law and order. 

首先,有几个词是国务卿希拉里不该使用的,那就是法律和秩序。

然后开始结合个人情感讨论“law and order”……

来看看他东拉西扯的功夫,忍住不要笑……

We need law and order. If we don't have it, we're not going to have a country. And when I look at what's going on in Charlotte, a city I love, a city where I have investments...

我们需要法律和秩序,如果没有这些,就没有国家。当我看到发生在夏洛特市的事情,那是我爱的城市,我在那里有投资……

You walk down the street, you get shot. 

你走在街上,然后就挨枪子了……

In Chicago, they've had thousands of shootings, thousands since January 1st. Thousands of shootings.

在芝加哥,有上千起枪击案,从一月一号起有上千起!上千起枪击案啊!

The argument is that we have to take the gun away from these people that have them and are bad people and shouldn't have them. These are felons. These are people that are bad people...

关键是我们要从这些人手里把枪夺走,这些人都是坏蛋,都不该拥有枪。这些都是重罪犯。这些人都是坏蛋……

You need more police. You need a better community, you know, relation. You don't have good community relations in Chicago. It's terrible. I have property there.

你需要更多的警察。你需要一个更好的社区,你懂的,关系。在芝加哥没有很好的社区关系,太糟糕了,我在那里有房产的。

撕得好精彩,我们来看看视频片段……

中国躺枪

整场辩论,我天朝也几次无辜躺枪,让人啼笑皆非

- 1 -

川普表示,美国就业不好,全怪中国,中国把我们当存钱罐罐(piggy bank)……

Trump: You look at what China is doing to our country in terms of making our product. 

看看中国在制造业方面对我国都做了些什么吧。

They are devaluing their currency and there's nobody in our government to fight them and we have a very good fight and we have a winning fight because they are using our country as a piggy bank to rebuild China and many other countries are doing the same thing. So we're losing our good jobs, so many of them.

他们在让货币贬值,但我们的政府里没人去和他们抗争。我们要抗争,我们也必须要赢,因为中国人正在像利用一个储钱罐一样,利用我们的国家,去重建他们的国家,很多别的国家也正在做类似的事情。所以我们有很多人都失业了,大好的工作啊。

- 2 -

川普怪中国贬值人民币,打压美国制造业,这样无情地对待美国,深感痛心……

Trump: Our country is in deep trouble. We don't know what we're doing when it comes to devaluations and all of these countries all over the world, especially China, they are the best, the best ever at it. What they are doing to us is a very, very sad thing.

我国遇到大麻烦了。世界上那么多国家都在贬值他们的货币,中国正是这些国家里最厉害的一个,而我们对此手足无措。他们这么对待我们是让人十分痛心的。

- 3 -

川普表示中国应该替美国解决朝鲜的核问题……(黑人❓脸)

Trump: Because you look at some of these countries. You look at North Korea, we're doing nothing there. China should solve that problem for us. China should go into north Korea, China is totally powerful as it relates to North Korea.

你看看某些国家的所作所为。你看看朝鲜,我们对他们什么都没干涉。中国应当替我们解决这个问题。中国应该侵入到朝鲜去,它有这个实力,因为这也与它息息相关。

第三轮辩论

第三部分的议题是:securing America(保障美国安全)。

- 1 -

主持人的问题是:美国的网络攻击背后到底是谁在作祟,我们又该如何面对它?

希拉里正面回答了提问:

There are the independent hacking groups that do it mostly for commercial reasons to try to steal information that they then can use to make money. But increasingly, we are seeing cyberattacks coming from states. 

有独立的黑客集团,为了商业目的窃取信息牟利,但来自其他国家的网络攻击也越来越多。

I think we need do much more with our tech companies to prevent ISIS and their operatives from being able to use the internet.

我认为我们需要跟科技公司合作,阻止ISIS及其操纵对象使用网络。

她的观点是,美国应该领导盟友进行全球反恐:

We have to work more closely with our allies. We're working with nato.

我们要和盟友密切合作,和北约合作。

特朗普反击道,他于希拉里的区别是,一个只会夸夸其谈,一个却会实际行动。

So when secretary Clinton talks about I'll take the admirals and generals any day over the political hacks.

希拉里夸夸其谈时,我会带着海军和陆军上将对政治黑客掀起反击。

必须要提的是希拉里的“邮件门”:

You don't know who broke into DNC, but what did we learn? We learn that Bernie Sanders was taken advantage of by your people.

不知道是谁黑了民主党全国委员会,不过我们知道的什么?是你们利用了伯尼·桑德斯。

此时桑德斯应该打了个喷嚏...

跑题的风格继续延续,拿儿子说事:

I have a son. He's 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers, it's unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough.

我有个儿子,他十岁了,他有台电脑,他电脑玩得特别溜,让人难以置信。网络安全问题非常非常难对付。

最后亮出观点,美国不应该再当世界警察:

We are losing billions and billions of dollars. We cannot be the policeman of the world.

我们失去了数十亿美元,我们不能当世界警察。

- 2 -

川普称美国应该从伊拉克手中夺回石油,这样ISIS就不会攻击美国了。希拉里的回击一针见血,川普的反驳只有傲娇的一个字……

Clinton: Well, I hope the fact checkers are turning up the volume and really working hard. Donald supported the invasion of Iraq.

希拉里:嗯,我希望事实核查员加把劲,努努力,川普支持进军伊拉克。

Trump: Wrong.

特朗普:大错特错。

Clinton: That is absolutely --

希拉里:这绝对是……

Trump: Wrong.

特朗普:错。

Clinton: Proved over and over again.

特朗普:一遍又一遍的证明了。

Trump: Wrong.

特朗普:错。

主持人向川普确认到底是不是支持伊拉克战争。

Trump: Would you like to hear? I was against the war, wait a minute. I was against the war in Iraq. Just so you put it out.

特朗普:想知道答案吗?我反对战争,等等,我反对伊拉克战争,现在你知道了吧。

Clinton: The record shows otherwise, but.

希拉里:然而记录里显示的并不是这样。

Trump: It does not show that. The record shows that I'm right.

特朗普:不是的,记录显示我是对的。

- 3 -

本小节出现了整场辩论最经典的一句话:I have a winning temperament. (我有获胜的性格。)川普真是实力段子手……

当主持人问川普为什么他的看法跟希拉里不同时,川普的论点是:

I have better judgment, I also have a much better temperament than she does, you know? I have a much better. 

我有更好的判断,我性格也比她好,你知道吗?好多了。

I think my strongest asset, maybe by far is my temperament. I have a winning temperament. I know how to win. She does not.

我认为我最大的优点,目前为止可能就是我的性格,我有获胜的性格。我知道怎么赢,她不知道。

希拉里表示 Woo, okay(呵呵,好吧)。

燃鹅,热心网友提出了质疑

我还是觉得川普根本不知道temperament是什么意思,就一直把它等同于获胜。

- 4 -

特朗普曾经称希拉里“没有总统相”(doesn't have a presidential look),主持人问他这句话什么意思。特朗普的解释:

She doesn't have the look. She doesn't have the stamina.

她没有总统相,没有精力。

主持人:然而你说是总统相,相貌……

特朗普:

Did you ask me a question?

你问我问题了吗?

…… 

- 5 -

最后一个问题:只有一个人会赢得大选,输了是否能接受?

希拉里表示无论输赢,支持民主:

I support our democracy. And sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. But I certainly will support the outcome of this election. It's not about us so much as it is about you and your families and the kind of country and future you want. 

我支持民主,输赢有时,但我会支持选举结果。选举不是关于我们俩,而且关于你们和你们的家庭以及我们国家的未来。

川普再次跑题:

I want to make America great again. The other day we were deporting 800 people. Perhaps they pressed the wrong button, or perhaps worse than that, it was corruption. These people we were going to deport ended up becoming citizens. End the up becoming citizens, and it's 800, and now it turns out, it might be 1800, and they don't even know.

我想让美国再次伟大起来+跑题500字(大意是想遣返非法移民)。

在主持人的追问下,特朗普表示也会支持希拉里:

If she wins, I will absolutely support her.

如果希拉里赢了,我也绝对会支持她。

整场辩论到此结束,两人握(不)手(欢)言(而)和(散)。

CNN民调显示,希拉里成为这场辩论的胜利者,62%的观众认为希拉里表现更胜一筹,只有27%的认为特朗普表现好。

第一场闹剧结束。美国网友开始写段子……

如果希拉里和特朗普都掉进海里,谁会得救?———美国

(美国人也学会了这个段子?)

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